OT: Logging-In Issues at Altec User Board

Darn Todd, You snook in your post when I was typing, shows you how slow I type.Thank You for posting, didn't want anyone to think I or anyone else was giving you a hard time about the site when it is actually the complete opposite.Thanks So Much for setting the record straight.This post was before I seen your post but figured I'd leave it anyway ! I think I can speak for most of the members here in saying we "Love The Site" and will stop at nothing to ensure it continues for a long time to come with your Blessing of course ! Long Live "Altec Lansing" ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bfish

The recent site repairs cost me a whole right-click (create shortcut) and an exhausting left-click (place shortcut on desktop?).

---

But you say nothing about all the error messages people are getting when trying to post,maybe that's OK with you.And personally I don't like shortcuts cluttering my desktop,I prefer bookmarks.;)

FYI Todd happens to "AGREE" with us regarding Hostboard ! ;) We are trying to improve the site for everyone, even you ! Without any cost to Todd. He's looking into it BTW.As the Administrator he knows about more issues than we do. I'm sure Todd knows who really appreciates what he does when it comes time to pay the Bills.

As for whining or crying who's whining or crying when i see some people trying to improve something for all.I would call it something else, but that's just my opinion like you have yours.Bunch of us came together because we couldn't get onto the site and came to a conclusion ! I would call that Troubleshooting,Problem Solving, but your entitled to your Opinion.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bfish

I, for one, am grateful to Todd for his efforts, and will gladly live with his choices in such matters without any bitching or whining.

---

Kinda my position. It's Todd's decision. I do not see this as a democracy where we vote on it.

Server space isn't that expensive. But it would be a massive amount of work to move the board. I haven't heard anything to convince me otherwise. It's not an economic issue. It's an issue of how much work load can be placed on Todd.

For the few bucks a server costs, lets see a server rented for a few months and all the archives moved. I think you will find it much more difficult than planned.

You can get a server for 3 months for 20 bucks. If it's true Bulletin board software is fairly universal, there is freeware out there. I repeat it is NOT an economic issue. It is an issue of can it be done without putting Todd in a looney bin.

If we have to buy the software Hostboard uses there is that cost. But a server is pennies a day. Shouldn't take that long to determine if it can be done at all.

But at this point I am not convinced we can move and save the archives. It would be a serious loss.

First of all, it has been run by Todd on all accounts, so don't worry we don't live in a democracy ! It is Todd's decision we just gave him our assurance that if he is Interested it won't cost him anything.And that there are Talented Folks here that could make the move for him with him making all the Choices ! "Painless" ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Altec Best

It is Todd's decision we just gave him our assurance that if he is Interested it won't cost him anything.And that there are Talented Folks here that could make the move for him with him making all the Choices ! "Painless" ;)

---

That remains a claim until it's done. I am not trying to be a wet blanket, just a voice of caution.
If it's as easy as you claim, then why don't we do it and present Todd with a running board? WITH all the archives in place.

And then once it's all done let him make the decision to go or stay.

To me until another board is running the discussion is moot. And it hasn't been proven how hard or easy it is.

I have been told about easy things before only to be still working months later. TOO many times.

The Ball is in Todd's court, as I said it is his and only his decision.He posted already, he will have word next week that is good enough for me.All I wanted was to assure him if he needed any help,support,that there are a few of us ready to help !

There is technical,financial whatever he needed would be at his disposal ! I personally feel the site has been priceless for me for what I have gotten out of it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Altec Best

I personally feel the site has been priceless for me for what I have gotten out of it.

---

Agreed.

Understand I am not being an atheist about moving the board, just agnostic. Show me, and I will believe.

The Lansing Heritage forums are next to useless for Altec owners/appreciators.

The dictionary definition of "Ignored" should read: Altec user posting at Lansing Heritage.

A decent discussion can be had here.You get the feeling that over there liking Altec is like farting in an elevator.

There is no site that give one what this site does.Thanks Todd.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Old Guy

If it's as easy as you claim, then why don't we do it and present Todd with a running board? WITH all the archives in place.

---

Actually, I was all set to do just that - but the recent update has made it near impossible for a non-administrator to do so. I can capture the entire hostboard to my hard drive, but it's huge. With the old address system, I could have captured only the Altec section.

But the forum administrator can do do it thru his control panel much more easily. I don't know if Todd has admin rights on hostboard.

Hoastboard runs on the very good phpBB freeware that so many other forums use. You will have noticed that many fora look alike - that's the reason. Almost all hosting providers allow installation of phpBB as part of their package. The main headaches are downloading all the threads, posts and images here, then uploading them to a new host. Then getting all the phpBB settings tweaked on the new server. A big job, to be sure, but do-able. And the Altec forum is not split into sections, like so many other boards. It's all just threads in one section. Should make it much easier. (we may loose the classified section).

I can't help with the moving to a new server part as I am basically computer stupid and it would take longer to teach me than to do the work, but I can help with the money part. Sounds like the server is quite reasonable but if there are other costs, keep me in the loop.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by voice of the theater

.......I do have a question regarding starting a new website. This forum is not only a great place to ask and answer questions/exchange information, but it's also become a veritable encyclopedic resource via the search feature. So many great threads/people/ideas have passed through this forum since I joined over two years ago (and tons before I joined) that this forum is now a vast repository of knowledge. All you have to do is type something like "duplex" or "Valencia" (for example) into the search feature and you have more information at your fingertips than you could ever imagine. If we move to another website is there a way to transfer the accumulated knowledge/threads from this site to the new one? I hope so because I for one would hate to see us move to a new website and have this one fold and have all those amazing threads/information/collaborations lost forever. Just a thought......

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Altec Best

Let me set the record straight here.In no way are we talking about closing this site and losing all the info. Todd would have to make a back-up copy of the threads here to include them into a new site.......

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Panomaniac

According to the few tech support guys I've spoken with, as long as the board goes to a new phpBB host, it should not be that hard.

A copy is saved from here, then uploaded elsewhere. Of course I'm sure it will never be that smooth, but you gotta start somewhere! This forum is tiny compared to many others. That is to its advantage. This version can run until the new version is solidly in place.

I'm willing to lend a hand or do all the work, if need be. And the costs for the 1st year of hosting have already been promised. It would not be hard to get 2 years paid in advance.

---

Well, I couldn't have asked for more clear answers to my main question about this move. I think it's great AB and Pano want to help Todd improve the site, and they have a great plan to make sure all the info here is not lost "This version can run until the new version is solidly in place." It would be great to have a more complete Altec Library hosted at the site as well and hopefully not all the bugs, etc. to worry about!